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What’ll be inside this bodice

Boning inside the Pink Florentine

Boning inside the Pink Florentine

I’ve been debating about the structure of the bodice for La Junesse. Basically, whether to put it over a corset or not. The inspiration gown is prob. 1580s-90s and so is my SCA persona. Now, I have a feeling I will veer away significantly from that picture — my gown will be pink, it will be 1580s, and the bodice and skirt will be similarly shaped, that’s about it. The neckline and sleeves and trims may be wildly different (this is me we’re talking about).

But back to the structure. By this point in history, it is plausible that women of that class and place (Italy or France; the painter is Italian but the style looks rather more French too me, a touch Spanish even; heck, let’s just call it Continental and be done with it ;-), she could be wearing a corset, aka a pair of bodies stiffened with boning of reeds / bents or even whalebone. There’s a clearly conical bodice shape going on. And yet, there’s a hint, just a hint of a swell of bosom in the painting too. It’s a tad more noticeable in this version of the image in the closeup. Right around where her arm is bent. The waist/bust area isn’t a hard, straight cone. Over-analyzing much?

The point of this is, should I go standard-issue and build the bodice over my mostly-reed-boned effigy corset (made by Sarah), as I’ve done for pretty much every other 16th-c. gown I’ve made? Or try something different? The other historically accurate option is 15-bazillion layers of material without boning, including things like buckram and pasteboard, which, uh, no thanks, not in the kind of weather and use I’d be subjecting this garment to.

What I did way back when I first started in ye olde renfaire days was layer and bone the heck out of my bodices. Which is close to the historical method, just with some judiciously placed steel boning. I used layers of twill or denim underneath velvet or damask and boned the seam lines and along the lacings — made for super-durable bodices, no corsetry required. And they were a bit more comfortable too, because with everything being of one piece, there was less shifting around, cutting in, and less overall weight.

Sooooo … I think I shall return to my roots and do this hybrid historical / theatrical style for La Junesse. I cut out a twill interlining for added strength, and I ran down to OSH for packs of cable ties to add boning.

My stash had no sufficient boning, and I’m trying to keep this a budget-friendly project. Thus I’m trying cable ties for the first time! 18″ long ones were $4 for a pack of 10. I’m snipping them with wire cutters and filing the ends smooth with a sanding attachment on my Dremel tool. Then I’m slipping them into bone casing tape (from The Stash) that I’ll sew in a fan pattern along the front of the bodice to the twill interlining. I really just want the front boned so my boobs are supported. I don’t trust fabric alone to do the job!

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Shock and over-achievement, our Y!Group

You mean I’m hand-sewing something and that others are *not*? Wow, the planets must be out of alignment ;-) I’m 3/4ths of the way through hand-sewing the hem of the base skirt.

A lot of my skirt will be hand-sewn actually, because the thing’s so giant. So far, only the panel seams have been machined. The trim on the chiffon will *probably * be done by machine, but the ruffles might be placed by hand, to get them just right (and again, soooo much fabric).

Kendra, you mentioned Bridget’s sewing machine makes buttonholes that look like hand-done eyelets. Would that count? And if so, Bridget, I’m coming over!

Would ribbon be appropriate to lace with? I think it looks prettier than cord, but I don’t know if what’s documentable for this era, and you can’t see the back of my dress.

Also, question about materials — boning in the dress itself, plastic or steel? Steel seems like overkill and a bit less period. Good quality plastic seems like a better stand-in for whalebone, the right flexibility. Usually, I’d only bone a bodice in steel if I’m not wearing a corset, but I defer to the group here. Or none? I was thinking a line of boning, in casing, along the side seams, front, and back where it’s laced.

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I’m in ur sewing room draftin ur pattrnz!

Projector

Projector

I’ve never scaled up a pattern from a book. This year, I made a point of acquiring all the biggies of the historical costuming library like Janet Arnold and Jean Hunnisett. They’re chock filled with patterns on teeny grids that you’re supposedly able to use. But how? Nobody would fill me in on that part. I’ve been in the dark.

Having recently figured out how to use my LCD projector with my desktop computer, I decided that “projector” meant “enlarger.”

First, I scanned Jean Hunnisett’s pattern for reproducing Elizabeth I’s Darnley bodice, which is a classic high-neck, closed, front-fastening bodice. This seems like an awfully good base for an 1580s bodice a la Lettice Knollys.

Projected image of Hunniset pattern

Projected image of Hunniset pattern

Next, I arranged the projector in front of an empty wall, where I’d taped some old xmas wrapping paper (only paper I could find). Then I projected the scanned image from my computer to the wall.

Tracing the pattern image was made more difficult by the fact that the wall is textured. Ugh. But I got the basic shape sketched.

I took the resulting “pattern” back to the sewing room, smoothed the lines, cut it out, slapped it on some muslin, eye-balled some seam allowances, and basted it together.

The first try was weird. The back was waaaaay too small, like, Barbie doll size small, yet the front had a good 4″ extra. I thought the back piece looked odd. So I added a ton of inches all around on the back and trimmed a little from the front. Re-basted. Now the back was way too big. The front was ok. Took a lot out of the center back, re-cut, re-basted.

It looked a little wonky, but kinda sorta in the right vicinity. I left it on Lola and went to bed. Oh and I hadn’t tried any of this on me in my Renaissance corset yet — I’d just done a vague test-fit on the dressform wearing a Victorian corset. So I knew there was much work to do.

Enter Sarah, who is, of course, a goddess and rocks my small, dark world! I am really fucking lucky to know and be friends with brilliantly knowledgeable, talented, and generous people like her and Kendra. I owe them so much. Seriously. I owe Aouda to Kendra, and I’m gonna owe this ren gown to Sarah. I quite literally Could Not Have Done It Without Them. It’s like some crazy wonderful bonus that they’re both fun, cool gals who I really enjoy hanging out with! What did I do to deserve this???

Ok, enough gushing, back to the dress diary :-)

Sarah arrived Saturday afternoon and fitted my mockup on me over my ren corset (which, while fitting properly, is so goddamned uncomfortable because it is tab-less that I absolutely have to make a new one, dammit). She moved the shoulder seams around, she darted the back and drafted it right out, she re-drew the waistline, and she did all kinds of other magical things I can’t begin to explain. We made at least two more mockups over the course of the day, and the last one was killer. She also drew out a perfectly wonderful pattern from it, so I am perfectly set to make an awesome bodice!

YAY!!!

The mockup photos are shown on my dressform with a Victorian corset, so the fit doesn’t look as spectacular as it does on me in the right corset, so just trust me. Also, the collar and skirtings are only pinned on, but they fit. I drafted the skirtings all by myself Sunday after Sarah left, and they’re based on the Knollys portrait.

Then I drafted the sleeves. I used Hunnisett’s “large Elizabethan sleeve” and instead of fucking around with the projector, this time I used Different Tools. I covered my cutting table with a cardboard “cutting mat” (the kind sold cheap at any sewing store). The mat is printed with a 1″ grid. I laid the tracing paper over this. I covered this with tracing paper. I’d bought a big roll of it at the art store (it’s a little narrower than I’d prefer, but it does the job).

Then I counted the squares in the grid of Hunnisett’s pattern and counted out the squares on my paper. With a lot of counting and using the French curve, I managed to transfer the sleeve shape from the book to the paper.

Finally I cut it out in muslin, basted it together, and pinned it to the bodice mockup.

Sleeve mockup

Sleeve mockup

Kinda hard to tell what it’ll look like because the muslin is so soft and the final sleeve will be much more stiff. I may poke around The Stash and see if I can find scraps of something sturdier for the next mock.

The basic shape here is what I want, but I think I need more fullness in the sleeve head and a tad more at the wrist. I might take the overall width down for the inner sleeve and then expand for the outer sleeve — this one is right in-between and not quite big enough for what I want the entire thing to be. But very close.

Other things accomplished this weekend — farthingale prep. I scaled up the Spanish farthingale pattern from The Tudor Tailor, using the same tracing-on-grid method. I still need to make the size fit me, as that pattern is intended for a person slimmer and taller than me.

Sarah and I went to Orchard Supply Hardware, where she steered me towards a nifty 3/16″ vinyl-coated cable to use for farthingale boning. It’s heavy and doesn’t kink up, has a curve but not a tight coil, and it was 89 cents per foot. I needed 13 yards (39 feet), and I had a 10% off coupon, so it seems like a good deal compared to hoop steel. (Note: I just calculated same amount of 10mm hoop steel, that’d be $36.12 before tax and shipping; I paid $33.82 for the OSH stuff, so not a massive savings, but not bad either.)

She also showed me the famous cable ties. They look quite sturdy and are not as bulky as I feared. However, a pack of 10 was $5.99, and I’d need at least two, probably three, so that’s $12 minimum before tax. It was $13.79 to bone the first ren corset with steel from Farthingales LA, including tax and shipping, plus it took less than a week for the order to arrive. Thus, no savings on the plastic vs. steel. Besides, I’d have to cut and file the cable tie ends so they don’t poke thru the fabric; steel comes smoothly pre-tipped.

Still, interesting to finally see what everyone was talking about. And if I get tired of steel someday, I’ll give it a shot! I’m just so partial to steel in corsets. It feels good. I feel secure. Maybe it’s from when I weighed more. Maybe it’s just because people told me to use it and I did. Maybe it’s because of all those plastic-boned Frederick’s “corsets” I used to have in my goth-clubbing days — I knew they weren’t real corsets, but I bought them anyway and wore them and they kinked and bent and gave up the ghost after two or three wearings. I dunno why, I just like steel. Give me a corset that feels like armor or give me death! That’s my prejudice and I’m sticking with it ;-)

So now I’ve got a bunch of lists of things to do for this Renaissance gown and some stuff I still need to buy for it. But I feel really good about it now! I’m jazzed. I feel like I can do it, like I can even get an untrimmed, no ruffs, no hat version done by the SCA 12th Night event of Sarah’s, which she totally got me excited about going to! Thomas is even gonna go, and we’ll stay the night. It’ll be so fun!

I’m going to practice ye olde Basic Faire Accent even. I love playing the part in costume. It’s so much more fun to be dressed up *and* in character. And Renaissance character acting was what really got me into costuming in the first place. So there’s a whole homecoming thing going on in my head that makes me happy.

This gown originally started as a way to ‘return to my roots,’ where Thomas and I met, and where I first started costuming. Well, we may not return to the exact scene, but we’ll go somewhere similar, and play around with our old parts, in new and improved garb. That’s all I really want — a return to the spirit of the thing.

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Needs boning, heh heh

Much corsetness achieved. Cut everything and sewed endless boning channels (though for once, the bobbin was kind enough to run out at the end of a channel instead of in the middle). Even made a strip of matching bias tape. Might put in the grommets tomorrow, whilst I wait for the boning order. Got an email that it was shipped yesterday, so I should have it mid-week. Then bind the top, and *ta da* I have a ren corset plus part of next year’s Halloween costume.

Ren corset, in progress

Ren corset, in progress

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Progress, at last

I actually started something last night! Whoo-the-hoo. I cut and tweaked the AlterYears Renaissance corset pattern to what I hope will be my size and shape. After doing all that, I kinda think I could have used the free corset pattern generator on the Elizabethan Costuming site. The corset shape is so simple. But then, I like to see things in patterns first before I try my hand at it. I’m slow that way.

I also wonder how anyone ever makes a corset for herself. It’s a royal PITA. Fitting outerwear is a cinch in comparison (slight pun intended). I just can’t get an idea of how a corset will actually fit by cutting it out in muslin and pinning it on. Corset fit is hugely influenced by boning and lacing, and I can’t replicate that in mere muslin. *sigh* I still wonder how I managed to get such a nice fit on my wedding corset all by myself. I’ve tried to make corsets so many times in the past, and that one (using the Laughing Moon Victorian pattern) was the only corset that really worked and fit right.

Still, I got what I think (fingers crossed) will be the right size and shape for this Elizabethan corset. I rounded the point in the front because, not only do I like that better, it will look right for Phoenix. I took the obligatory inch out of the length for short-waisted me. And I angled the back lines to fit my bust/waist proportion, plus I took an inch out of the center back so there’s a lacing gap — I can’t stand corset patterns that don’t do that! I rarely want the edges to meet. Besides, ya gotta compensate for weight changes ‘n stuff.

Pre-washed the black coutil (which lead to doing two loads of laundry after 10pm). Drew boning channels on the muslin so I could measure and order boning. Tonight’s a Sharks game and Friday we see Marie Antoinette, so I don’t expect to sew until the weekend. But I should be able to get all the channels sewn, and then hopefully the boning order from Farthingales LA will arrive next week. After that, it’s just the top binding and grommets (although I could start the grommets before the boning, since I’ll have the channels done). Oh and I found enough black grommets left in The Stash, yay.

If I can get the corset done in the next two weeks, I’ll be ready for bodice patterning help from the wise and wonderful Sarah! I’m one lucky duck to have such super-skilled and generous friends relatively nearby!

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Want to sew, don’t want to corset

Between finishing Aouda and the impending start of NaCoFiMo, I’m feeling fairly inspired to costume right now. Except the next thing on my docket is an Elizabethan corset, and I hate making corsets. It shouldn’t be that hard, that’s not the problem. I just find corsetry terribly boring and annoying. Stupid fiddly bone casings, then stupid fiddly grommets. Most undergarment-making bugs me. So little bang for the buck. Dullsville. Making them out of amusing fabrics can help, but that’s not doing it for me right now.

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